In Answer of Sir John Suckling's Verses

Edmund Waller (1606–1687) · 1645–1668

iambic pentameter · heroic couplets · 54 lines · from Cooper's Hill, and Other Poems

The virtuous joys thou hast, thou wouldst should stillLast in their pride; and wouldst not take it illIf rudely from sweet dreams, and for a toy,Thou waked; he wakes himself that does enjoy.

How can the joy, or hope, which you allowBe styled virtuous, and the end not so?Talk in your sleep, and shadows still admire!'Tis true, he wakes that feels this real fire;But--to sleep better; for whoe'er drinks deepOf this Nepenthe, rocks himself asleep.

Fruition adds no new wealth, but destroys,And while it pleaseth much, yet still it cloys.Who thinks he should be happier made for that,As reasonably might hope he might grow fatBy eating to a surfeit; this once past,What relishes? even kisses lose their taste.

Blessings may be repeated while they cloy;But shall we starve, 'cause surfeitings destroy?And if fruition did the taste impairOf kisses, why should yonder happy pair,Whose joys just Hymen warrants all the night,Consume the day, too, in this less delight?

Urge not 'tis necessary; alas! we knowThe homeliest thing that mankind does is so.The world is of a large extent we see,And must be peopled; children there must be:So must bread too; but since there are enowBorn to that drudgery, what need we plough?

I need not plough, since what the stooping hineGets of my pregnant land must all be mine;But in this nobler tillage 'tis not so;For when Anchises did fair Venus know,What interest had poor Vulcan in the boy,Famous Aeneas, or the present joy?

Women enjoy'd, whate'er before they've been,Are like romances read, or scenes once seen;Fruition dulls or spoils the play much moreThan if one read, or knew the plot before.

Plays and romances read and seen, do fallIn our opinions; yet not seen at all,Whom would they please? To an heroic taleWould you not listen, lest it should grow stale?

And as in prospects we are there pleased most,Where something keeps the eye from being lost,And leaves us room to guess; so here, restraintHolds up delight, that with excess would faint.

Restraint preserves the pleasure we have got,But he ne'er has it that enjoys it not.In goodly prospects, who contracts the space,Or takes not all the bounty of the place?We wish remov'd what standeth in our light,And nature blame for limiting our sight;Where you stand wisely winking, that the viewOf the fair prospect may be always new.

Words in this poem 17
virtuous a.
Possessing or exhibiting virtue. Specifically: -- (a) Exhibiting manly courage and strength; valorous; valiant; brave. [OE. vertuous, OF. vertuos, vertuous, F. vertueux, fr. L. Virtuous. See Virtue, and cf. Virtuoso.]
hast
, 2d pers. sing. pres. of. Fave, contr. of havest.
admire v. t.
To regard with wonder or astonishment; to view with surprise; to marvel at. [F. admirer, fr. L. admirari; ad + mirari to wonder, for smirari, akin to Gr. smi, and E. smile.]
nepenthe n.
A drug used by the ancients to give relief from pain and sorrow; -- by some supposed to have been opium or hasheesh. Hence, anything soothing and comforting.
fruition n.
Use or possession of anything, especially such as is accompanied with pleasure or satisfaction; pleasure derived from possession or use. [OF. fruition, L. fruitio, enjoyment, fr. L. frui, p. p. fruitus, to use or enjoy. See Fruit, n.]
wealth n.
Weal; welfare; prosperity; good. [OE. welthe, from wele; cf. D. weelde luxury. See Weal prosperity.]
reasonably adv.
In a reasonable manner.
cloy v. t.
To fill or choke up; to stop up; to clog. [OE. cloer to nail up, F. clouer, fr. OF. clo nail, F. clou, fr. L. clavus nail. Cf. 3d Clove.]
shall v. i.
To owe; to be under obligation for. [OE. shal, schal, imp. sholde, scholde, AS. scal, sceal, I am obliged, imp. scolde, sceolde, inf. sculan; akin to OS. skulan, pres. skal, imp. skolda, D. zullen,]
yonder adv.
At a distance, but within view. [OE. yonder, ýonder; cf. OD. ginder, Goth. jaindr there. Yond, adv.]
hymen n.
A fold of muscous membrane often found at the orifice of the vagina; the vaginal membrane.
peopled a.
Stocked with, or as with, people; inhabited.
enow
A form of Enough.
drudgery n.
The act of drudging; disagreeable and wearisome labor; ignoble or slavish toil.
hine n.
A servant; a farm laborer; a peasant; a hind. [See Hind a servant.]
goodly a.
Pleasant; agreeable; desirable. [OE. godlich, AS. g. See Good, and Like.]
bounty n.
Goodness, kindness; virtue; worth. [OE. bounte goodness, kindness, F. bonté, fr. L. bonitas, fr. bonus good, for older duonus; cf. Skr. duvas honor, respect.]

Definitions and etymologies from Webster's Unabridged Dictionary, 1913.

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In Answer of Sir John Suckling's Verses is in the public domain. This text is taken from Poetical Works of Edmund Waller and Sir John Denham, Project Gutenberg ebook #12322; the transcription's header, footer and licence were removed and nothing else was changed. You may copy, print and reuse it freely.

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Form and metre

In Answer of Sir John Suckling's Verses is 54 lines in 10 verse paragraphs. It is in rhyming couplets, 93% of the lines: heroic couplets. The metre is iambic pentameter, measured from the stress the words themselves fix (confidence 85%).

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Measured by Laurel's pipeline, not copied from a handbook: how stress and metre are counted, how rhyme is lettered, how a drifted rhyme is found. Where the dictionary cannot confirm a rhyme the letter is withheld, not guessed.

Rhyme words, stanza by stanza

The word that ends each line, lettered by the rhyme it makes; a dash is a line whose rhyme the dictionary could not confirm.

  1. 1 AABB stillA · illA · toyB · enjoyB
  2. 2 --AABB allow · so · admireA · fireA · deepB · asleepB
  3. 3 AABBCC destroysA · cloysA · thatB · fatB · pastC · tasteC
  4. 4 AABBCC cloyA · destroyA · impairB · pairB · nightC · delightC
  5. 5 AABB-A knowA · soA · seeB · beB · enow · ploughA
  6. 6 AABBCC hineA · mineA · soB · knowB · boyC · joyC
  7. 7 AABB beenA · seenA · moreB · beforeB
  8. 8 AABB fallA · allA · taleB · staleB
  9. 9 AABB mostA · lostA · restraintB · faintB
  10. 10 AABBCCDD gotA · notA · spaceB · placeB · lightC · sightC · viewD · newD
Scansion, line by line

Each line with its syllable count and the stresses the words themselves fix: / stressed, ˘ unstressed, · a syllable the word leaves free and the metre decides. Read against iambic pentameter. How this is done.

LineSyl.Stress
The virtuous joys thou hast, thou wouldst should still10·/˘·······
Last in their pride; and wouldst not take it ill10··········
If rudely from sweet dreams, and for a toy,10·/˘·······
Thou waked; he wakes himself that does enjoy.10····˘/··˘/
How can the joy, or hope, which you allow10········˘/
Be styled virtuous, and the end not so?10··/˘˘·····
Talk in your sleep, and shadows still admire!10·····/··˘/
'Tis true, he wakes that feels this real fire;10········/˘
But--to sleep better; for whoe'er drinks deep9···/˘····
Of this Nepenthe, rocks himself asleep.10··˘/˘·˘/˘/
Fruition adds no new wealth, but destroys,10˘/˘·····˘/
And while it pleaseth much, yet still it cloys.10···/˘·····
Who thinks he should be happier made for that,10·····/˘···
As reasonably might hope he might grow fat10·/˘˘······
By eating to a surfeit; this once past,10·/˘··/˘···
What relishes? even kisses lose their taste.10·/˘˘//˘···
Blessings may be repeated while they cloy;10/˘··˘/˘···
But shall we starve, 'cause surfeitings destroy?10········˘/
And if fruition did the taste impair10··˘/˘···˘/
Of kisses, why should yonder happy pair,10·/˘··/˘/˘·
Whose joys just Hymen warrants all the night,10···/˘/˘···
Consume the day, too, in this less delight?10˘/······˘/
Urge not 'tis necessary; alas! we know11···/˘·˘˘/··
The homeliest thing that mankind does is so.11······//···
The world is of a large extent we see,10······˘/··
And must be peopled; children there must be:10···/˘/˘···
So must bread too; but since there are enow10········˘/
Born to that drudgery, what need we plough?10···/˘˘····
I need not plough, since what the stooping hine10·······/˘·
Gets of my pregnant land must all be mine;10···/˘·····
But in this nobler tillage 'tis not so;10···/˘/˘···
For when Anchises did fair Venus know,10·······/˘·
What interest had poor Vulcan in the boy,10·/˘··/˘···
Famous Aeneas, or the present joy?10/˘/˘˘··˘/·
Women enjoy'd, whate'er before they've been,11/˘˘/˘˘/····
Are like romances read, or scenes once seen;10··˘/˘·····
Fruition dulls or spoils the play much more10˘/˘·······
Than if one read, or knew the plot before.10··········
Plays and romances read and seen, do fall10··˘/˘·····
In our opinions; yet not seen at all,10·/˘/˘·····
Whom would they please? To an heroic tale10······˘/˘·
Would you not listen, lest it should grow stale?10···/˘·····
And as in prospects we are there pleased most,10···/˘·····
Where something keeps the eye from being lost,10·/˘····/˘·
And leaves us room to guess; so here, restraint10········˘/
Holds up delight, that with excess would faint.10··˘/··˘/··
Restraint preserves the pleasure we have got,10˘/˘/·/˘···
But he ne'er has it that enjoys it not.10······˘/··
In goodly prospects, who contracts the space,10·/˘/˘·˘/··
Or takes not all the bounty of the place?10·····/˘···
We wish remov'd what standeth in our light,10··˘/·/˘·/·
And nature blame for limiting our sight;10·/˘··/˘˘/·
Where you stand wisely winking, that the view10···/˘/˘···
Of the fair prospect may be always new.10···/˘··/··
Notes from the edition 1

George Gilfillan's notes to the Poetical Works of Edmund Waller and Sir John Denham (1857; Project Gutenberg #12322).

  1. Stanza 6, line 1 'Hine': hind.

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